Chuck and I going over things. We were talking about some of our leadership experiences and how the variables of the group can really change things up. We touched base on some projects and then switched gears again. We ended up talking about taxes, government programs, people being left behind, advancing technology, career changes, and ways of working together. If you make it free, people tend to keep expecting free stuff. We've even seen this with some of our adilas clients. There are some challenges there. Always in search of that balance. Affordable yet reachable.