Meeting with Dave and Paul from visionmax.com

- Dave - they do a lot of kiosk work, mobile, web, etc. Some kind of a protected environment (usually full screen) and interfacing with some sort of kiosk or hardware unit.

- We need a bridge and/or proxy type environment - it is tough to go from web directly to hardware - we need a bridge or proxy type level

- Local installed code that allows for hardware interactions

- Browsers are clamping down on access to outside pieces and parties.

- They are seeing more and more need to play along SSL's on both web, local proxy, and middle ware interfaces. Certificates are needed on all side. They need to match.

- These guys have already done the integration with the PayPod unit. That is half of the way to the full goal.

- Dealing with money, there is tons of validation, who does what, and protecting from possible hacks.

- They, are out a couple of months (timelines). They took a good 3-4 months to build out the original pieces (middle ware) and then maintenance and other iterations based on that. They have been at this for about 10 years.

- There is an IP (intellectual property) aspect to this relationship.

- Http payload as XML or JSON - back and forth transactions. This could be for web, mobile, or hybrid type interfaces.

- Offer is open, they can point us in a good direction and we could do the development, or we could figure out a license type agreement and use their products and libraries.